EP196 Badass Clit Sexcesses: A Journey to Sexual Liberation & The Power of Community
Badass Clit Sexcesses: A Journey to Sexual Liberation & The Power of Community
Cliterati,
Over the last 4 years, we have transformed our lives by empowering ourselves in the realm of our Sex & Empowerment through all the guests and inner work we’ve shared on Clit Talk and we wanted to find a way to share this work in the way we’ve done it with other people.
We’ve JUST completed our first run of our Sex & Empowerment Signature Masterclass! We have been blown away by the positive impact that our course has made for our Cliterati and the results we’ve seen with velocity! So we’ve invited our S&E participants to come share their experience, breakthroughs and how this has made a positive difference in their life. The reason we want to share these stories is to inspire you - because if we can do it and they can do it, you can do it too.
This is an interview with one of the graduates from the Sex & Empowerment Signature Masterclass, MSG.
Through gaining a new pleasure positive community and using the tools and distinctions taught in this transformational course, this badass clit had life-altering breakthroughs in the realms of not just her sexuality, but also in her family relationships and career.
MASG highlights a key component of just how powerful transformation can be when you look through the lens of sexual empowerment and why this community is so important.
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“People should join this community because everybody wants to speak their truth and they just may not be ready to do that. And they might need a little bit of help. Even if you're not sure, just do it. I really started asking myself what's the worst that can happen? I don't get anything out of it? Well, I mean you get something out of everything, regardless of whether it's just meeting new people. What I got out of the Sex & Empowerment Signature Masterclass is an amazing fucking clit community, breakthroughs that are helping me continue to discover my sexuality, and getting a promotion. It's not just your sexuality that's affected by this. Literally everything in your life is impacted, from family relationships to your friends to your work - with yourself, ultimately. If you want even just a ten percent change in your life, this is something that can give you that ten percent and blow it up to a thousand.”
- MSG, Sex & Empowerment Signature Masterclass Graduate
You’re invited to Clit Talk’s 4th annual Valentine's Day Event.
This is when we are cracking up laughing as we talk about how MSG has never listened to Clit Talk Podcast before registering for the course.
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[Lindsey]: I'm so happy that MSG is the first interview of this because I have to tell all
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[Lindsey]: our listeners we were laughing so hard right before we started recording. Because when
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[Lindsey]: M S G registered from the course, her friend K H,
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[Lindsey]: we're using their initials because they're going to be anonymous.
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[Lindsey]: KH
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[Lindsey]: Is is an avid listener of the podcast and she kept telling Ama she to listen to it
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[Lindsey]: and listened to it. Listen to blah, blah blah, and then MSG came to our
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[Lindsey]: free workshop confidence under the covers,
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[Lindsey]: and never listened to the podcast and registered. So she is doing the course of this,
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[Lindsey]: having no fucking clue who we are.
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[Katie]: And it didn't matter
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[Lindsey]: It didn't matter.
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[Katie]: She rocked this course.
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[Lindsey]: We literally were like. Who knew M. S. She was going to be the breakout star of
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[Lindsey]: the fucking signature Masterclass, And you really were. So it's it's so perfect that
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[Lindsey]: you are our first conversation post. I mean,
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[sugar]: Mhm.
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[Lindsey]: Last night you saw me. I was a rack. I was like crying like I can't believe it's
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[Lindsey]: ending.
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[Katie]: I mean you called it together.
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[Lindsey]: barely
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[Katie]: We're leading the course.
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[Lindsey]: Thank you so much for being here with us
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[Lindsey]: today.
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[msg]: Oh, thank you for having me. It's . it's one of those things where like you said, I
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[msg]: never listened to clip talk before and K kept saying Hey, I think you're in a spot
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[msg]: right now that you probably should listen to this.
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[Lindsey]: Yeah,
MSG shares the story of her journey to sexual empowerment in the course.
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[Lindsey]: So so your story is so profound and I
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[Lindsey]: want to just dive
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[msg]: Mhm,
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[Lindsey]: right in with you. so I want
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[msg]: Sure,
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[Lindsey]: you to go back to the moment where K H is like bringing into this the workshop we
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[Lindsey]: had and and I want. and I actually really want to ask you this. Why did you
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[Lindsey]: originally signed up for the course? And what did you want to get out of it? The
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[Lindsey]: moment that. And what was the moment of you signing up? Like? What was that Tells
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[Lindsey]: about that moment?
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[msg]: So I, I mean, I'm about it. I've been in therapy for like twenty five years for a
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[msg]: myriad of different issues and challenges and life, life situations and traas, And I
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[msg]: think I was at the point where I just needed something different, And when Katie
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[msg]: brought me to this and introduced me to all you wonderful fantastic ladies,
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[msg]: , cllit, fantastic clits. ,
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[msg]: I was like. You know what? what? Like? There's nothing like I sorted. I knew the she
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[msg]: was going to be of enlightenment and awakening. I'm into Tarot, and all that,
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[msg]: all those mystical concepts and functions. So I was just like sure. Why not? What's
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[msg]: the worst that can happen? I don't get anything out of it Cool or I, You know, maybe I
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[msg]: get something out of it or I can just meet this amazing group of women and go through
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[msg]: amazing leaps and bounds with breaking through all of my walls. Oh, most of my walls
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[msg]: there's still a few that I have to kind of kick down and crble, but breaking through
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[msg]: some of these walls like, even in that first session that we had with that Webon are
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[msg]: afterwards. Katy and I talked for like two hours. I was just shocked and surprised. I
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[msg]: I like I was like I've been in twenty five years of therapy and I never broke through
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[msg]: all of this like there's still a lot of stuff and the the things that you know Sugar
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[msg]: had talked about. I, I kind of was like, Oh my God, that's me and that's where I think
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[msg]: the start of the break. the breakthrough was and I
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[Lindsey]: Mhm,
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[msg]: wavered and hmed and hobbed, which is stupid because I already had made the
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[msg]: choice.
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[Lindsey]: Yeah,
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[msg]: It wasn't a decision. I made the choice to do it. I was just a little guns shy, And
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[msg]: then I just made it and I was like I told Katy. I was like I got it and she's like, Did
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[msg]: Is it cool? I'll see you in like a couple of weeks.
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[Lindsey]: I, It's funny because I actually remember you from the wbinar. And you were like
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[Lindsey]: You registered live during the the workshop and we were like Yes,
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[msg]: Mhm.
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[Lindsey]: Who is this? M. S. G. You know. , okay, So and so you? So you
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[Lindsey]: usually signed up thinking? Okay, maybe I'll get something out of it. Maybe I'll
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[msg]: Right,
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[Lindsey]: a cool group of women. So I want our listeners to get this cause your
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[Lindsey]: your story is so powerful. I want to get like a little a quick glimpse of like what
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[Lindsey]: was your life like Before
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[Lindsey]: you? You really tackled? Tthe conversations that you did in the course.
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[msg]: it was status. ▁quo. I was raised in a small town. I had very. I don't want to say I,
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[msg]: I had white. I thought I had way more cultural cultured or just knowledge about the
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[msg]: world, 'cause I had so many different friends from different walks of life, and I never
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[msg]: that had been ingrained in me.
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[Lindsey]: Hm,
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[msg]: I was always a little bit more timid about asking for a promotion or getting like
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[msg]: seeing that I was worth anything. I had a lot of self worth issues. I just
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[msg]: struggled with a lot of things I probably shouldn't have, considering how powerful it I
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[Lindsey]: Mm,
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[msg]: so I mean that's and that's part of the reason why I joined it was 'cause KH saw
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[msg]: that like she saw that. You know you project a really good show, but I know on the
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[msg]: inside you are breaking down. You have a lot of things that you're hiding the shame
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[msg]: which we went through in that first week, which was a breakthrough.
MSG shares her biggest breakthrough.
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[Lindsey]: yeah, yeah, so let's dive right into that. Like, what? like we're
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[Lindsey]: going to get into your specific story now? Like what was the biggest breakthrough
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[Lindsey]: sex enpronment? Yeah,
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[msg]: So the biggest breakthrough happened in the first week when we started talking about
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[msg]: shame loves secrecy
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[Lindsey]: Hm,
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[msg]: and I never thought of that like I never, at twenty five years of therapy, never
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[msg]: through it and then talking to my pleasure partner and also to KH
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[msg]: I realized that I had a ton of shame that I didn't even know was there that I never
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[msg]: And then once I started doing that, I realized Oh my God. So for me it was a sexuality
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[msg]: thing. I always thought I was straight. I always thought that I loved men. You know,
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[msg]: everyone loves the penis. It's fine. Nope, but I thought the K. As soon as I started
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[msg]: thinking about it, Sugar shared her experience and I was like, Oh my God, that's me.
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[msg]: That's me. Oh my God, it's me And then I talked to one of my friends. about it being
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[msg]: You know, Am I bi? Am I? What am I like? What's what's that whole thing
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[msg]: simply is if you watch lesbian porn and you like it because it's beautiful. The
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[msg]: difference is do you want to join in and I sat back and thought I did. I did want to
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[msg]: join in. I wanted to know what it was feeling like, you know. Be like. You know. what is
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[msg]: it like to tribe some woman or scissor, Or what is it like for her to go down on
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[msg]: me or what is it like me to go down and her like all of that stuff? Like I really like
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[msg]: that when she said that I was like, Oh,
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[Lindsey]: That's gold.
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[sugar]: Mhm?
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[Lindsey]: That is gold
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[msg]: that's gold.
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[Lindsey]: right there. That's gold.
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[msg]: That's cool.
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[Katie]: And, you know, when we start the course, we have everyone fill out a
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[Katie]: member survey right, so we can get a litmus
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[sugar]: Oh, my,
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[Katie]: test of wherever
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[Lindsey]: Yeah,
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[Katie]: everyone's at, And you wrote
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[Katie]: Heterosexual
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[Lindsey]: Yeah,
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[Katie]: and I've never told anyone.
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[sugar]: and you did it,
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[Katie]: never even allowed yourself to explore the conversation
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[Katie]: never even allowed yourself to explore the conversation
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[sugar]: and you did it live. We were on a group call with like a dozen women from the course.
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[sugar]: Bad asked.
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[Lindsey]: that really speaks to this. The secrecy
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[Lindsey]: share the truth that's been
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[Lindsey]: bubbling on the surface for years
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[Lindsey]: that they haven't had the courage. and we, We were talking about you, like you
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[Lindsey]: display like we have a term vulnerageous, which is vulnerable and courageous.
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[Lindsey]: so inspiring.
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[msg]: I think when KH told me because I, we talked about it a little bit afterwards and I
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[msg]: said, I think it's easier to tell you. It's easier to tell a group of people who've
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[msg]: never really met you and there's no past bias. right? You didn't know the men that I
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[Lindsey]: Yeah, we all have girl.
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[msg]: I mean, you didn't know what you, don't you? You don't have any of that that passed.
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[msg]: That passed bias of who I was and what I did, and you know I'm starting to actually
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[msg]: I, I can start telling them and they're like not the conversation I expected. But you
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[msg]: know what? That's really cool. How can I support you on this journey?
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[Lindsey]: Yeah, Yeah, So and what's
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[Lindsey]: and what's you? really? really in Like, really took advantage of the community
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[Lindsey]: So so you had this amazing breakthrough, You realize your' bisexual and and our
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[Lindsey]: you know what would have been predictable before you took the course Versus,
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[msg]: Mhm,
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[msg]: So we all have all have our little bitch
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[msg]: in our head right and so my name's Vanessa, cause that's my drunk personality when
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[msg]: I was super bitchy. V. S was always a bitch. So that's I, that's joined my little bitch
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[msg]: after. Sorry any Vanessas that I are listening. And so I went and kind of started
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[msg]: exploring like you know, couples and started talking to like men who said that they are
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[msg]: in an ethical non non mono, non monogamous relationship. E, n Ms. and I met up with
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[msg]: using E, ▁quotes that she consented. I doubled check throughout the day just to make
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[msg]: sure. , come to find out, , he used a female decoy, so I mean, I have to give him
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[msg]: some props that he. You know, he was dedicated to it. but like , what his wife called
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[msg]: know. consenting to this, I don't know who you talked to or you found him. Please don't
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[msg]: sleep with him. I looked at him and I was like. What are you doing to me? My main rule
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[msg]: I talked to his wife. I told her you know, I'm so sorry. I did not know. He said that
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[Katie]: right,
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[msg]: And I called her and she walked me through the the sugar breathing thing
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[Katie]: four seven eight breathing.
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[msg]: fortunately
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[Katie]: Yeah, I think we should, but just for people listening,
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[msg]: and she talked me through it and she was telling me she's like I know Vanessa is
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[msg]: while, but I need you to start like we need you to take a step back and think of you. Luly
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[msg]: did everything you possibly could outside of asking for driver's license and meeting up
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[Katie]: night said
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[msg]: because there is no better. in this case.
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[Lindsey]: Yeah, you did everything
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[sugar]: Mhm,
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[Lindsey]: there was to do. And and I'm so glad that because the thing that's really
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[Lindsey]: heartbreaking is this was your first experience, sort of like experimenting with a
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[Lindsey]: I'm
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[Lindsey]: really glad that you had the support system that you did to not give up on still
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[Lindsey]: pursuing your truth.
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[msg]: right, and that's and that's the thing, like I. I'm still upset. obviously, but I know
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[Lindsey]: Mhm.
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[msg]: I wouldn' to be laughing. We wouldn't be joking. I probably would. It would been like
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[msg]: I, I know I, I can say with confidence that I would be in a very depressive
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[Katie]: Well, I want to
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[msg]: No,
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[Katie]: acknowledge you and point out a few things that you use. So Vanessa is the little
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[Katie]: bitch, which is the little voice in our head that is not us,
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[Katie]: It's a product of limiting beliefs that keep us from going after our goals and
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[Katie]: our desires, So when she's talking about Vanessa, it's like ▁quieting.
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[Katie]: the little bitch is something that we really practice. one of the first things that
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[Katie]: we do,
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[Katie]: and then you get pleasure partners. You have the option of pleasure partners within
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[Katie]: the course, and
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[Katie]: you, you and , other pleasure partners like combined to be a pleasure partner
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[Katie]: posse, which I think is so amazing because that's the great thing about our course is
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[Katie]: we really wanted to have the community aspect, And then you are the author of your
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[Katie]: and y by ▁quieting the little bitch, And by getting the support that you needed and
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[Katie]: being in communication, because this is ultimately A we. What we've get to after we
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[Katie]: do all the internal work is we practice communication.
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[msg]: Mhm,
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[Katie]: You did everything in the entire course, listening and speaking from your clitmitment
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[Katie]: and being a bold stand for yourself,
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[Katie]: and you are the author of your own life. Like this is what it looks like and the
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[Katie]: predictable future would probably be. You would probably write off this type of
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[Katie]: ever again, you know, and you, and that's not what's happening like you. And it's
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[Katie]: just so it's so powerful. The Found foundation that you've built in going on
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[Katie]: exploring. and you are also a member of our climax program,
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[Katie]: so we will be continuing. You know working because it's a muscle right
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[Katie]: like you get all the tools and everything. But then it's all about practice and going
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[Katie]: through life using it and really gathering that experience.
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